Some additional commentary about these scenes. One of the remarkable things about clouds, a real unknown, is how clouds such as Altocumulus (1st photo) can get so cold, colder than it was this mid-November in Wyoming, and can remain all or mostly water drops, which is what you are looking at in those cloudlets over and beyond the Catalinas. Pretty amazing. This phenomenon has been known about for decades, but not fully explained. We expect to see a lot of ice in clouds with tops colder than -30 C (-22 F) as you might imagine.
Here’s the sounding near the time of these photos, with writing on it:
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As a CMJ, you need to be armed with explanations if, on a morning walk, your neighbor, at first overwhelmed by the morning beauty, but then instead of being quiet, goes on to ask, “Hey, aren’t those clouds composed of droplets; they must be pretty low and warm?”
Since you’ve already seen the TUS sounding for the hours just before this, you know those cloud bottoms are real cold and high, -26 C, and 19,000 feet above you here in Catalina, and tops are really cold, about -32 C (-26 F), you cringe. What to say? How do you explain clouds that can sit there at -32 C and develop little or no ice, while knowing that Cumulus clouds, ones whose tops have never been colder than -7 C, can be completely composed of ice just after reaching up to that temperature?
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Here’s another example from yesterday of extremely cold clouds with few ice crystals:
Well, Shakespeare said it: “Much ado about nothing,” so it must be important if he said it.
Had some really nice cloud scenes after the big clearing came through in mid-afternoon:
There were some light showers that produced as much as 0.20 inches of rain in the south and east parts of Tucson late yesterday afternoon and evening. Nice for them.
The weather way ahead
Nothing in the way of rain in the immediate future. Have to wait until December for any real chances. See this bad boy for December 6-7th, this panel only 360 h from now1!
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1360 h in advance, even using our best model, is about in time like the distance to Betelgeuse in light years. Hence, caution when the writer says, “only.”
In the mid- -20s C, around -15 F. Height, about 21,000 feet above the ground here in Catalina. Hope you got that estimate of cloud height right.
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Continuing…
Here’s what happened in the Cirrocumulus cloud layer in yesterday’s special day, a pretty rare one, after the jets flew through it:
Lessons to be learned from yesterday’s supercooled clouds and the aircraft interactions inside them:
Cloud seeding works! You CAN make a supercooled, non-precipitating cloud produce a little precipitation that would not otherwise have occurred.
But in those situations where the clouds, say, are topping the Catalinas, they are often quite thin, and whether there is an economically worthwhile amount of precip is not known. However, an experiment targeting those clouds would be the perfect “baseline” one in cloud seeding to establish how much we can wring out of non-precipitating clouds. Things become kind of a mess when even randomized seeding takes on already precipitating clouds.
“Overseeding”, as here in these clouds when aircraft produce prolific numbers of ice crystals in a small volume, it leads to tiny ice crystals with low fallspeeds. Sure, they fall out and leave a hole, but they virtually never reach the ground except in one a in billion cases when the very cold clouds are real low, practically on the ground.
The Wegener-Bergeron-Findeisen mechanism produces precipitation.
Alfred Wegener, 1911, and later Bergeron3 and Findeisen in the 1930s, came up with the hypothesis that adding ice to a supercooled cloud results in the growth of the ice crystal at the expense of the droplets. They’ll tend to evaporate while ice is being added to the crystal via deposition of water vapor that was once liquid. So, an awful lot, maybe most of the precipitation that falls on earth, involves “mixed phase” clouds. This process has also been called the “cold rain process.”
However, let us not forget the two other processes that produce precipitation, the all ice process (no liquid required–helps produce “powder snow”, and the all liquid process, where cloud drops collide and grow into raindrops–the biggest measured drops in the world (about 1 cm in diameter) have formed soley through this process. It is likely that most of the rain that falls in tropical locations like the Hawaiian Islands and in hurricanes is due to this process even when ice is present in the top part of storms.
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Later, we had some Altocumulus castellanus clouds with virga as the moist level lowered, though they were long gone before they could provide us with a nice sunset:
Still looking for scattered very light showers in the vicinity tomorrow as a Mr. Troughy goes by.
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1Through the oral history tradition I learned while viewing the Washington Husky meltdown2 at AZ stadium on Saturday from a Mr. Mark Albright that the Tucson weather balloon launch site has been moved from Davis-Monthan Airbase to the University of Arizona campus next to their weather department.
2Late in the proceedings, with about 2 min left and the Huskies starting a play, and in the lead, CM was visibly moved to jump up and say, “Don’t hand the ball off!”, as a gift to Arizona fumble occurred simultaneously. But, being bifurcated in his loyalties now that CM is in Arizona and not with the University of Washington, he had to be somewhat “glad” that the Cats maintained their somewhat suspect but great win-loss record.
Here we go…..some pretty, but also dull, photos, along with some novella-sized captions as mind wandered into the obtuse while writing them.
That’s about it. No use talking about the rain ahead again. Seems to be a couple chances between the 20th and the 30th.
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1You can make a cloud snow a little by seeding it with dry ice or silver iodide. This has been shown since the earliest days of experiments. Below, to demonstrate this, an aircraft inadvertently “seeded” this Altocumulus cloud layer. However, whether the small amount that falls out from previously non-precipitating clouds is economically viable is not known. Increasing precipitation due to seeding when the clouds are already snowing/raining has not been satisfactorily proven. As prize-winning stat man, Jerzy Neyman, U of Cal Berkeley Golden Bears Stat Lab would tell you, you need a randomized experiment and followed by a second one that confirms the original results, with measurements made by those who have no idea what days are seeded and evaluations done by those who have no vested interest in cloud seeding. Wow there’s a lot of boring information here. Getting a little worked up here, too.
A measly 0.01 inches is all we got here yesterday in a Seattle-like rain from an overcast that sputtered drops drown over a couple of hours, one that could barely wet the pavement, if we had any here in Sutherland Heights. Of course, we surely drooled at the close call that drained Saddlebrooke yesterday afternoon (see below). Probably washed more golf balls into the CDO wash like that storm did last year…
Also, 0.75 inches fell, too, where Ina crosses the CDO wash yesterday, “so close, and yet so far away”, as the song says. Oh, well, another missed rain that I have to crybaby about1. Will get some final pictures of the 2014 summer greening today before it fades away in the many dry days ahead to help make me feel better now that its over.
Here’s your cloud story for yesterday. It was pretty neat one, full of hope, even if that hope was eventually dissipated unless you lived in Saddlebrooke… The U of AZ time lapse film for yesterday is great, btw.
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1Its good to remember that there is a little crybaby in all of us, isn’t there?
Probably haven’t heard that name in a while. It kind of went along with “Old St. Nick”, “Jack Frost”, the kind of thing that we kids called things.
Well, yesterday in the land of Catalina, we had three separate thunderstorms in about 8 h, all producing nearly continuous thunder, and when you could see it, nearly continuous lightning. Oddly, there were few cloud-to-ground strokes. The lightning, too, was odd, light bulbs going off in small areas of the thundering clouds, and when visible, was a fine, often curly cue thread, seemingly one third the width of “normal” lightning. Thunder was heard at 6 PM, 11 PM, and 1 AM1 in those separate storms. Was a pretty fantastic light show, as you know, since you likely got up to watch it as I did.
All in all, while not a lot of rain fell in Catalina (one core over the Golder Ranch Bridge at Lago del Oro Parkway, presented the gauge there last night with 0.43 inches, though friend, Rick Bowers of Bowers Photo over there on Trotter said he got 0.65 inches, the most in town. Here in the Heights, just 0.24 inches. Still, its ALL good, except maybe for the flying ant swarms that are beginning to erupt.
Here’s the quickest way to look at some rainfall numbers around the region: Pima County ALERT gauges. And here fro the State, from WSI Intellicast’s rendering of radar-derived precip, usually pretty accurate.
The best way to reprise your cloud day, to make sure you logged all of them in your cloud diary, is here, courtesy of the fine University of Arizona Department of Atmospheric Meteorology time lapse film. It was so good yesterday, I put in two links to the same thing. Really is a complicated flow day, one cloud maven person has not seen before.
To wit, there were two layers of ice clouds traveling almost perpendicular to one another. Never saw that before. The height difference must have been huge. You will also notice some Altocumulus tufts at the SAME level as that
Big fat contrail leads to a “heavy” fall of ice crystals at about 9:30 AM, the aircraft flying in the lower ice clouds (where it was warmer, of course, and that means the ice content was higher than in the Cirrus clouds way up top that moved from the west). That higher amount of moisture allowed bigger ice crystals to form and fall out so obviously from the contrail.
And it was an extraordinary event for another reason: contrails aren’t supposed to form at the temperature this one did! You won’t find contrails forming at -20 to -30 C in Appleman’s famous nomogram for contrail formation. No, that’s right, you’re not supposed to get them until about -35 to -40! Could be a publication in this….
IN FACT, what happened is related to the “Hole Punch” and “Ice Canal” phenomenon2 resulting more often from aircraft flying through droplet clouds like Altocumulus, ones that are also very cold, usually colder than -15 C. So, the ground has been tread pretty heavily in this domain EXCEPT that there was NO DROPLET cloud where that strongly precipitating contrail was laid down! Could be a publication, to repeat…some “sci glory” might be down the road….)
Here’s the Tucson sounding that tells all:
Well, got WAY behind in chores following the “vacation” in WA and OR lately, so will quit here. Instead of a cloud shot, I will leave you with this public service reminder about dumping in others trash bins.
More thundershowers on the way here as the Pac NW goes into a heat wave over the next few days. Heat? Hah! They know nothing about HEAT. If its 85 F, they think its really hot!
Forecasting tip: in the summer when the Pac NW gets hot, we’re usually wet. So, lots of great days ahead, and more visits by “Tom Thunder.”
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1Weren’t we supposed to drink Dr. Pepper at these times?
2Mr Cloud Maven person, yours truly, had his feelings hurt when his paper about his own research aircraft producing ice in clouds at below freezing temperatures, co-authored with Peter V. Hobbs, was rejected twice, but then accepted on the third try (way back in the early 1980s) and in the end, everybody was happy. You can read the whole story here. It starts out, so you can see how bad I felt, “…the reviewers are still unconvinced by these controversial claims.”
Today our passing cold-core trough is overhead and in the middle of it, the moisture is low enough to trigger Cumulus and small Cumulonimbus clouds as the middle and high clouds exit “stage right.” Should be an interesting day since these cumuliform clouds will be so high-based (above the Lemmon summit) and cold that lots of ice will form, producing virga, and in some places, sprinkles. A hundredth or two is possible, but that’s about it. Heck, I guess there could be some lightning here in southern Arizona as well.
This will be the last interesting cloud day for awhile, as you likely know.
Below, your weather map for 5 PM AST when there should be plenty of ice action all around:
BTW, our trough, as it passes to the east, will trigger yet another strong storm with a massive cold air outbreak behind it in the eastern US.
Our next interesting cloud days will be on the 11th and 12th as another trough passes overhead. Slight chance of rain again.
I’m talking about your clouds and weather day yesterday, and definitely NOT about someone whom I shall call, “Sharon1“, that happened to me 33 years ago and whose birthday was yesterday, Ground Hog Day, a day commemorated by a 1993 movie about a weatherman. Seemed “right”, too, to be a weatherman with a girlfriend whose birthday was on Ground Hog Day. I loved her so much! Was definitely in the first stage of the psychologist’s lab standard, the Passionate Love Scale2 ; euphoric when things were going right, and also a stage characterized by delusional and obsessive thinking. (Haven’t we all been there at some point?) Had a great sense of humor and playfulness about her, too. As it turned out, though, I wasn’t good enough for her. (I really wasn’t; she was a med student and all that; very brainy, so there was quite a mental contrast.)
Oh, yeah, NOW for the clouds yesterday on a cool day which is what I was talking about to being with; high only 55 F here in the “Heights”:
Below, the predicted total rain in Arizona as this great trough goes by. NIL in Catalina! The map below is a forecast of all the rain areas and their amounts expected by 2 PM AST tomorrow afternoon. Fortunately, it has been, as in basketball, “rejected.” Read details in caption.
The End. I hope you’re happy now since I have titillated you with a personal story in a cheap attempt to raise blog ratings. Haven’t broke into the top 10 million blogs yet. But maybe if min is more like “Entertainment Tonight”, I make that breakthrough.
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BTW, if you haven’t heard yet: “Seattle Celebrate (sic) SB Win!”, a title and article written by a possible drunken AP writer after the SB, if you’re interested.
————– 1Defintely NOT a picture of “Sharon”, but its how she MIGHT have looked had she been in my Seattle living room with her son, New Year’s Eve, 1981. And, of course, I found someone I loved just as much later…
2Don’t believe me that such a thing exists? Read the first column of SCI CLIPPINGS CAUDATE OVER HEELS IN LOVE 001, no less. Probably goes farther in its discussion of these kinds of things than we really want to know about and how they came to know them…be advised.
WHAT a gorgeous day was yesterday! Perfect. No wonder the northlanders come here in their droves now! Its great to see (via the increasingly larger number of out-of-state license plates) all the people that want to be where I am already!
While waiting for the storms and cold air just ahead now, this cloud commentary:
Along with the pretty high and middle clouds was a rarely seen phenomenon, aircraft flying into those “supercooled” Altocumulus droplet clouds were converting them to ice in their wakes. These are similar to contrails, called by me, APIPs, Aircraft Produced Ice Particles. That’s right, your Catalina Cloud Maven person named that phenomenon, though its not a great name since it could apply to usual contrails as well. Modest brain strained hard, but couldn’t come up with anything better. So, given that background, he’s probably going to make a big deal out them when he sees one or two here.
Its rare because the Altocumulus have to be pretty cold, -15 C (5 F) or so and colder1, and at a level where aircraft are flying, usually in a descent or climb pattern to their normal flight altitudes up around the higher Cirrus levels (30-40 kft above sea level and at temperature generally below -35 C). Typically because of climbing or descending, the ice canals, or holes with icy centers, are short and small. Here are a few examples from yesterday, but you really want to look at the U of AZ timelapse movie to see a bunch of them going by in those pretty Altocumulus clouds and mackerel skies we had. Note that as cold as these Altocumulus clouds were, they were not producing ice:
And there were other fine sights! Look at this display of Altocumulus perlucidus undulatus, rippled mackerel sky:
Weathering ahead….
Looks like cold spell will last, once underway, into the middle of the month. SNOW indicated HERE in Catalina-land on the morning of December 11th from a crazy model run based on last evening’s global obs at 5 PM AST yesterday. Here’s what that morning looks like overhead, at 500 millibars:
BTW, the local weather services all around the SW are already worked up over the coming cold wave and have issued Special Statements, quite fun to read because they reflect the excitement we weather folk are feeling now as we look ahead to wind some rain, and a big frontal passage followed by cold air. After all, the weather’s pretty dull here in SE AZy most days of the year, and by “dull” I mean that not much is happening except for pretty clouds and nice temperatures, a weatherperson’s “dull.”
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1 Yesterday afternoon’s Tucson balloon sounding which I forgot to look at until now:
Here is the temperature change from yesterday morning at this time to today at this time, courtesy of The Weather Channel and due to that dry cool front that went through yesterday. Its about 8 degrees cooler this morning here in Catalina compared to yesterday at this same time. Nice.
But, its back to above normal temperatures for a few days after this respite. Normal is around 90-92 F here in Catalina for this time of year, but a 100 F is just ahead I’m afraid. No rain seen in mods for the next 15 days, too. Feeling glum.
Yesterday’s clouds
Had some nice supercooled Altocumulus translucidus clouds yesterday after the Cirrus departed. Here’s a shot that was taken as an aircraft flew through a patch of it. Note fine contrail. These clouds, from the Tucson sounding at 5 AM AST, appear to have been at temperatures between -15 and -20 C, ripe for aircraft to produce icy canals or holes, and that’s what happened. Below is the rest of the sequence, taken from different locations. In the last shot, the tip of that icy contrail began to light up and I thought I might see some color due to refracting ice crystals, but it didn’t happen. These aircraft effects on supercooled clouds are receiving more attention in the scientific community, BTW.
For a time, too, we had our lenticular cloud friend downstream of the Catalina Mountains in its normal position.
Powerful, but dry system progged for later next week
Check this “four panel” out, bottom of blog, from the Canadians from their model run last night. Its valid for the afternoon of Thursday, May 24th at 5 PM AST.
My first thoughts: Egad! Holy Smokes!
Looks like low temperature records will be broken in the West and Pac Northwest as this comes through those areas. However, the thought of the ovenly air over the Southwest at this same time, being drawn into the western High Plains States was alarming. This is because it could get superhot over there as our hot air comes down out of the Rockies. Fortunately, the models don’t show the 120 F temperatures in the Plains my alarmist mind was generating.
What WE will get here in Catalina as this giant trough settles in the West for several days is a LOT of wind and dust in a lot of hot air before the cooler air arrives sometime after May 25th.
This period of wind and hot air will be awful for the fire situation. No rain is indicated with this giant low, too.
I dread these days because you’re thinking about how much is on the line as far as our forests go.
Trying to feel better today about the huge miss, that “gutter ball” low that is slipping down the Baja coast toward MMZT (“Mazatlan” in weather identifier jargon) right now as I write, and trying to forget about what it could have been. Reminds me, too, of that critical dropped pass in the Superbowl by some guy in the last 40 seconds that could have changed the game, or that girlfriend who found out I was older than she thought and I went off the relationship possibility radar after that, etc. From the University of Washington, to sigh about, this map series for 500 millibars . Its good to sigh about things, shows you’re alive inside, have feelings that get crushed every so often. Hahahaha, sort of.
You will see that the winds at 500 millibars (18,000 feet ASL or so) around the Baja low are stronger on the back side (the green lines are closer together on the west side compared to the east side). Therefore, to paraphrase, “Don’t need no model” to know that this low going to head SE and away from us. Maybe it’ll reach the Galapagos Islands….dammitall.
As the low moves farther and farther away, the gradual ascent of air that produces all those clouds you see drifting up toward us from the south, weakens. The rain lessens, too, the clouds begin to thin and lift above the ground as they move into AZ. That’s what happens in these situations. That upper low needs to stay close for the clouds to remain thick be rain producers here.
So, even though the clouds look great on the satellite images, and are producing rain to the south of us here in Catalina, and are heading this way, they end up thinning and weakening as they do. Expect to see a lot of virga today from heavy Altostratus opacus clouds (mostly deep ice clouds), and that’s about it. But even a sprinkle would be nice, just to remind us again that it can still rain here.
Rain in the future?
Here is is, THREE chances the mods now say after having nothing just yesterday at this time. Two minimal events have shown up; one on the Sunday the 12th and again on the 14th, THEN this behemoth of a storm on the 23-24th, shown below! I am beside myself with excitement dreaming about how important I might be to my friends a couple of days before it hits! Though we know, by now, that what is shown below is as likely to be realized as an ice crystal forming in HELL, nevertheless, it is HOPE. Check it this out from IPS Meteorstar’s rendering of our US WRF-GOOFUS (“goofus” after about a week in advance) model and be happy! “Totally awesome!”
“In case you missed it” department; yesterday’s aircraft effects on Altocumulus clouds
The temperature of those “supercooled” clouds was around -20 C, perfect for aircraft to make holes and ice canals in them, a kind of inadvertent cloud seeding. Here are a couple of shots, the first, a hole with an ice patch in the middle, 2) and ice canal, and three strange optics caused by aircraft-produced ice crystals.
Enjoy, or be upset by artifact ice.
Hawaiian Storm and Big Wave Alert
Continuing the theme about meteorologists and the excitement we get over bad storms, a weather student at the University of Washington was beside himself and sent an e-mail to all of us on the weather list, in case the rest of us missed it, this NWS bad storm news for the Hawaiian Islands and giant surf. Seemed kind of funny, this extra effort to bring to our attention a really bad situation there. I do have to admit wanting to go see the waves crashing on the rocks and world class surfers who will come in their droves to surf’em. I had to smile reading this:
“Check out the front page of www.weather.gov right now – the unusual front Greg Hakim mentioned at the end of weather discussion today is the top story, above the map. If it’s changed by the time you’re reading this, here’s the message:
…Threat of Coastal Inundation for the Hawaiian Islands and the Marshall Islands…
Published: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:27:29 EST
High Surf Warnings are in effect for Hawaii, where the 10 to 20 foot waves observed today are expected to rise to 18-35 feet tonight. High tides and strong winds are expected to impact the Hawaiian Islands as a cold front moves across the area. This will increase the potential for coastal inundation, with potential impacts including road over-wash, sand or rocks on the roadways, and water approaching exposed property areas. The Marshall Islands have the potential to be similarly impacted. Details…”